Lots of questions on 500 calorie protocol

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Maybe I should have posted this under the "HCG teleseminar" subject, sorry I don't know how to move it now.
I am doing my 3-day loading and will be starting the diet in 2 days. I have compiled a bunch of questions which I am hoping I can get answered in the next 2 days...OK, here goes....thanks!

Supplements and superfoods, what should I stop and what can I continue?
I know I need to suspend the oils...cod liver, krill, etc. But what about my vit. D, CoQ10, Vit. K, & buffered ascorbic acid? I also take strontium and melatonin; and tri-alkali, a powder you mix with water containing Ca, Mg, and K citrates; those are part of my osteoporosis protocol. Should I take the whole foods multivitamin? I will suspend all supplements if I need to, but I would like to know whether this is recommended or not.

Regarding superfoods, I will be giving up the chia seeds, hemp and nut/seed mixtures, as they are way too high in fat. But what about seed and legume sprouts, bee pollen, protein powder... SunWarrior fermented brown rice protein which is mostly protein, very low in fat and carbs. Can I use it as a snack or a protein meal replacement? Can I use sea vegetables? Miso soup? What about powdered green drinks like Boku Superfood mixed with water or unsweetened almond milk (20 calories for 1/2 cup)? Vegetable juices? Is Yerba mate tea OK? It does have caffeine but also many health benefits. It is understood I will stay within the 500 calories of course.

Is it OK to use Oxypowder to keep bowels moving?

Last question: clarification of directions for liquitrophics. The website says to take 1 tsp. of each with food. Priscilla said to start the Liver Gallbladder (which I assume is the Hepato Liquitrophic?) by drops away from meals, starting 1 week before the HCG (I do 7 drops bid) and to continue taking it this way with the other 3 remedies. I put some into a dropper bottle because it didn't come in one. So which is correct? Should I be taking the Hepato Liquitrophic by the teaspoon with meals, or by the drops away from meals?

Sorry to have so many questions. I skimmed through Simeon's book and will try to read it again, also find Dr. Cage's recipes and meal plans helpful. I suppose the closer you stay to the strict protocol the better, but then again they probably didn't know or have access to all the wonderful superfoods we have now, so what do you all think?

The community support is great, and I am looking forward to my experience with the protocol. Thanks!
Sue in Asheville

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Lots of questions on 500 calorie protocol

Hello Sue in Asheville. Long time no see!
Supplements and superfoods, what should I stop and what can I continue? I know I need to suspend the oils...cod liver, krill, etc. But what about my vit. D, CoQ10, Vit. K, & buffered ascorbic acid? I also take strontium and melatonin; and tri-alkali, a powder you mix with water containing Ca, Mg, and K citrates; those are part of my osteoporosis protocol. Should I take the whole foods multivitamin? I will suspend all supplements if I need to, but I would like to know whether this is recommended or not.

Simeons said that Vit D, Calcium and Cit C were ok if needed for teeth and bone health. I personally do not see why all the other supplements (non-oil) need to be avoided but I have no way of asking Simeons. You could try it and see if your weight loss is slowed. It will not hurt to go without your multi for a few weeks.

Regarding superfoods, I will be giving up the chia seeds, hemp and nut/seed mixtures, as they are way too high in fat. But what about seed and legume sprouts, bee pollen, protein powder... SunWarrior fermented brown rice protein which is mostly protein, very low in fat and carbs. Can I use it as a snack or a protein meal replacement? Can I use sea vegetables? Miso soup? What about powdered green drinks like Boku Superfood mixed with water or unsweetened almond milk (20 calories for 1/2 cup)? Vegetable juices? Is Yerba mate tea OK? It does have caffeine but also many health benefits. It is understood I will stay within the 500 calories of course.

Again Simeons warned against substituting from his diet so you would have to see for yourself what happens. I do not see why you could not substitute as long as you avoid fat and stay within your calorie count. Yerba tea is fine.

Is it OK to use Oxypowder to keep bowels moving?

I think so.

Last question: clarification of directions for liquitrophics. The website says to take 1 tsp. of each with food. Priscilla said to start the Liver Gallbladder (which I assume is the Hepato Liquitrophic?) by drops away from meals, starting 1 week before the HCG (I do 7 drops bid) and to continue taking it this way with the other 3 remedies. I put some into a dropper bottle because it didn't come in one. So which is correct? Should I be taking the Hepato Liquitrophic by the teaspoon with meals, or by the drops away from meals?

Take Liquitrophics by the tsp. with meals.

Sorry to have so many questions. I skimmed through Simeon's book and will try to read it again, also find Dr. Cage's recipes and meal plans helpful. I suppose the closer you stay to the strict protocol the better, but then again they probably didn't know or have access to all the wonderful superfoods we have now, so what do you all think?

Yes I agree with you.

The community support is great, and I am looking forward to my experience with the protocol. Thanks!
Sue in Asheville

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I just checked my AdrenoLiquitrophic.....I was thinking it was part herbal and part homeopathic.....but it is all homeopathic(h. version of some herbs for one)...anyway...the label says"Adults: 1 to 2 tsps. per day" It does not say to take with food. I believe Dr. Priscilla said take 1 tsp a day. So be sure to double check your bottle of HepatoLiquitrophic...(since I don't have one of those) you might not be directed to take 3x's a day like some of the other remedies. But it's looking like you don't take any of them with food????? Recheck your labels and if still in doubt...or need help you could call/email support/restate your ? in the forums.

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LVR/GB Remedy VS. Hepatoliquitrophic

Thanks jotales, that does help. I will switch to taking the Hepato by the teaspoon with meals along with the Adreno. It would be good if there were specific directions clearly posted along with the current kit, to avoid confusion.
A pound a day including the 3 days of loading, that's awesome! Are you taking supplements or did you stop? I hope to do as well, keep it up!
Sue

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LVR/GB Remedy VS. Hepatoliquitrophic

HI Sue...sorry I can't help much with most of your questions, except to say that Dr. Simeons had pts. who didn't lose if they strayed from the plan..even by using a cream on their skin.
Your ?s are good for those of us who do eat rather healthy to begin with and are on a variety of supplements.

One thing I do know..is that the Homeopathic HCG kit...started out with
a Liver/Gallbladder Remedy. Dr. Kendra then switched to the H.Liquitrophic, saying that the effect is the same/similar. So....the drops rx. and number of times a day by Dr. Priscilla was for the L/GB Remedy.
Your H. liquitrophic has a different dosing...which I believe is the tsp. that you are talking about.
Though my kit had the LVR/GB remedy..I did have adrenal liquitrophic and that dose is a tsp. So I am assuming your H.liquitrophic is a similar dosing esp. since you mention a dose of a tsp.
Hope this helps clarify that one point for you. Good Luck on HCG...I lost 5#s in the first 5 days...even when 3 of those were loading days.